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[QUOTE]I would like to see more elegant solution, like an introduction of some kind of directional pressure beams that would act upon the Manger cone and to jolt or comforting it what it is necessary. [/QUOTE]THAT would be cool. If anybody knows how ...
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Moreart, somebody sent me this link last year. You are surely the DIY pioneer of back loaded Manger.As you probably know this is a touchy speaker to work with. Rated at 91 dB/W input by the factory, we measure ~91 up to near 92 dB/1W/1m in our two mo...
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Hello,my Manger measurements are here:http://www.hm-moreart.de/76.htmmy experience fullrange in the Basstubashows ~5W are the max. input before it getslistenable worth. (volume control 11 a clock)good luck....
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I once visited a Manger addict who had an active system with Mangers and corner horns (equipped with four eightinchers, not heavy pro stuff). I found the Mangers and the horns very well-matching, and one should be glad about every Watt...
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Joe, I think I would battle it.
I would not be so certain. Mostly the SUV sized bass horns are notoriously bad sounding despite of the assurances of the system owners overwhelmed with so common in audio endowment effect. Not to mention that the Stag...
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Audio Federation have publish some images from the Silbatone room at CES, even it is in their new idiotic format of the “magazine” but they still visible.
http://spintricity.com/445/public/Vol1-3/page182
What attracted me in the images is to see wh...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]...my light woofers would not be the optimum solution and I might need to use 18”-24” woofers.[/quote]Hello Romy!At least for corner horns I think I can say that lightweight drivers are the better solution. HBM's corner hor...
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Romy, I am quite sure I know less about GIP then you... US rep? Not Joe Roberts, I hope. On the brochure they have web-site addresses, there are two of them: www.silbatoneacoustics.com and www.gip-laboratory.com. It is possible that those are two sep...
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Looking at the pictures of CES I came across a new Seoul-based company Silbatone Acoustics that show off a new speaker “APORIA” in Vegas. It is a back-loaded Manger.
What I read the company philosophy I was not pleased.
http://silbatoneacoustics.co...
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[quote user="Romy the Cat"]Now, a few predictions. Next year, if the Silbatone folks are no fool. then will discard the stupid Aporia and will come up with a new loudspeaker.
The caT[/quote]A half of the circular baffle proposed by Manger would fit ...
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First thing first. I was running under impression that the cost of Silbatone Aporia under $100K. I was looking where I might get this impression from. I am sure it was a comment at some CES blog but I was looking and was not able to found it. Most li...
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[Quote] would you accept a photograph from a camera if it didn't do "blacks" and "extreme darks"?
[/Quote]CRITICAL POINT 1VISUAL PERCEPTION AND AESTHETICS ARE NOT VALID MODELING SYSTEMS FOR MUSICThis is why imaging is a screwed up way to talk about ...
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Mani, BTW, if Silbatone-pimping Joe Roberts showed up in here then it had to be the Aporia speakers with the back-loaded single Manger were presented in the show. Why would Silbatone otherwise to drag to the show that big and expensive mastodon...
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Romy:This is your lucky day! The owner of Silbatone Acoustics wants to invite you to Korea as his personal guest. Pick a date in March. You pay the plane ticket and he will pick up all accommodations and entertainment.You can hear the Aporia versus t...
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To summarize the thread, at least what is important - not the Robert’s cheap clownship, I have to admit that I spoke with a number of people, the people who are NOT the “exuberant morons” in my view, who went to CES and heard Silbatone Aporia. ...
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First off, I will point out that neither Silbatone nor I claim or agree that the Aporia horn is a point source, because clearly it is not. The sound comes from two "areas" but even that is not a particularly useful notion.Although some do make that c...
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[quote user="zanon"]My room is big … So how to measure it's size? Just write in floorplan of the entire house.[/quote]
I do not think that we need to measure room size but we need to understand the acoustic consequences of the room size and to...
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"]… our goal for the speaker is "big horn sound in normal sized rooms"--and 8W will do that.[/quote]
I think I missed it. This is erectly what I disagree with. I do not feel that a single driver dipole speaker is capabl...
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[quote user="Paul S"]OK, Romy, that EnABL stuff got my attention!I can't recall all of the bad ideas borne of good research, but this EnABL thing sounds a little fishy, and certainly it sounds too good to be true, as existing in a simple and really u...
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- I did whatever I could, I whispered to him the most seducing, but he refused it.- Whatever you whispered to him I know, - replied Voland, – but it was not the most seducing. However, I would say to you, - smiling he referred to Mas...
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Joe,
A few comments I need to make.
First, about the WE. I think it is a bit cheap, to bring to the table with me the arguments of the level that the “editor of the biggest and most influential magazine in the world, Stereo Sound, who can get...
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[quote user="op.9"] Amir wrote:Hey , I judge the sound by myself , you judge the sound by yourself but we could have common area in our view if we be trained listener, do not search criteria if you believe good sound really exist. biased opinion is b...
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Joe, I do appreciate that that invitation is open-ended and I might take advantage of it sometimes. Frankly I do not feel any specific temptations that I need to “drop everything” and to run to another side of the globe to audition the Silbatone. The...
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[quote user="twogoodears"] BTW: while in Berlin, last May, Frank Schroeder performed an interesting, provoking "blind-test" using '50s and '60 Telefunken's midrange loudspeakers (22 cm diam.), comparing FC vs. PM:almost everyone in the listening ...
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[quote user="Joe Roberts"] You have not heard Mangers, Aporia, or Loth-X speakers yet you thought sniffed yourself into an incredibly accurate picture of what they sound like. Great trick! [/quote]
It is not correct. I did not report the “in...
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Certainly, this sincere invitation was offered in part because they found you an interesting Cat, but I think that the offer was also inspired by the fact that you are writing pages of critique on items that you have not, in fact, ever heard.My Korea...
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[QUOTE]So what is high end audio, then? I know for some it is the quest for
the perfect soundstage, but let us exclude them for the moment. Rather,
is it a way for us to become more connected to the Sound? In a sense,
like a crutch for an invalid ...
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My first impressions a about the “differences” of field-coiled derived form the time when I ran the Telefunkens war time drivers but at that time I had no reference how the same driver would act with permanent magnet. Also, the Telefunkens are the re...
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[quote user="Amir"]
OK , 100 beginner listener have 99 different opinion but trained listeners have more common idea. general listeners shop krell , ML , focal , wilson ,magico, B&W quad manger...
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